Blood still flows

Recently I got a couple emails concerning Okopipi, I am rather surpised, after I posted about not being able to work on the project anymore I monitored the forums and such, and nothing...I thought the project would die and that was that. Now I see it has started to become active in the last couple months which is good to hear. I have a bit more time these days, but with a baby and deployment on the way that time will soon be cut short. If anyone can get nathan off his ass I have a server we can use for free so he can stop paying this hosting company. Maybe there is hope after all.

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This project is dead...

At the risk of being flamed into oblivion...

This project was initiated months ago, shortly after the demise of Blue Frog - an interesting and unfortunate (though pivotal) project, that actually fought back and *made a difference*.

The spammers noticed, and they got pissed. I think that's progress. If anything, it demonstrated a few theories about fighting back. Some characterized it as "vigilante", others consider it completely legitimate.

Personally, I think it's legitimate. But that's another topic.

Since the time this project was initiated, there hasn't been one line of code written, no models, no project plan... and there doesn't seem to be sufficient interest (at least, as far as I can see here) in actually creating a product. At least, by those who are capable of writing code (which, unfortunately, I am not).

Though the original intent was good, I wonder why this board is still alive after all this time. ;-)

If there really is enough interest in getting this going, then a different approach is needed.

My question is: how? Slashdot, boards, somewhere to solicit participation?

Thoughts for the holidays...

Not so fast!

My friend,

My name is Square Bottle. Let me see if I can help. See discussion: http://www.okopipi.org/forummsg/114

Square Bottle - Art Coordinator
Sabayon Linux - www.sabayonlinux.org

Cash

I would REALLY like to see a replacement for the blue frog but have no coding abilities and little time. I think a number of people like myself, though, would be willing to contribute monetarily to the project. Would it be possible to set up a PayPal account administered by whoever is responsible on the steering committee with a cash prize to the person(s) with the first fully-functional client/system? People hate spam, and I think many would be willing to donate small amounts of money to create an incentive to get this moving. It would give those of us with no time and/or skills a way of helping and could provide some motivation to those here with the ability to make this work.

google summer of code

There's always Google Summer Of Code.

An idea....

This may or may not have been mentioned before, but if the end product worked like this, I think we could have a winner.

The end product would allow everyone to download a toolbar for OE or gmail/yahoo. A database is built up on a number of distributed servers from feedback from sent from these end users who indicated when an item of email was spam.

After some time, the servers would analyse the results, and we would then have a list signatures of email messages that have been voted highly as those being spam messages. These would then be formalised and sent back to the client who could remove instances of those email of these messages.

To take things a step further, individual users, could be more highly respected by the system, and be assigned a greater weighting for example, if they were valuable users who submitted reports on a regular basis that were mainly in agreement with other users. These highly respected users weightings would be utilised from preventing the system being poisoned by the spammers.

When a new spam message hit the streets of course, the system would have no knowledge of it, however after a short period of time, some respected users would have submitted reports, and the system would be able to deal with them quickly, hopefully with this updated information helping the thousands of other users when they then open their client anytime after.

To be even bigger winner ....

The end product would allow everyone to download a toolbar for OE or gmail/yahoo ... well google is already doing a great job with marking mail as spam why not cooperate with google or ask google to cooperate with this project :). Possibility 1: Google send s automatically spam mail to this database / server? Possibility 2: Google makes a little addon to gmail what lets the user send speciffic mail to this database. Of course toolbars are also welcome and pluggins for kmail, thunderbird, all oss spam filters you name it. If you get google and yahoo on your side ... this project will be the winner.
Ps. Something I heared this morning over the radio that EU want's to take some serious steps to stop spam.

An idea....

double post sorry.

Let's get it moving

Let's get this project rollin! I check this site every few weeks to see what progress has been going on. It's going much slower then I ever would have imagined for such a great idea. Thanksgiving break is next week, maybe I'll see what I can do to contribute to this war.

We must keep this alive

Hello,
Although I haven't been active in the OKOPIPI project, it is good to know it is still alive. The struggle against spammers is a valued one for millions of users world wide. Although I don't have many technical skills in this respect, it is clear for me that we have to win this one... no choice. Urge people to join forces and get this project going. If there is anything in my low technical skills I can do, of course I will get involved.

Regards,
maqex

we must keep this alive by maqex

so k if only one line of code is written a day its forword motion and thats what counts
as Oat Willy would say "onword through the fog"
Scrapiron

Even if the code and design

Even if the code and design was bad and had to be rewritten from scratch, at least the initial version could show us what we shouldn't do.

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